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brake calipers, again
« on: May 25, 2011, 12:33:41 AM »
ok guys, i know the easiest way to get better brakes is to change the forks, but i dont want that, so, for those who want better calipers and have struggled to find something that fits, try this link www.svracingparts.com, they do a bracket that should allow cbr 600rr or the older fireblade nissin calipers to fit, i have just ordered a set of these brackets and also bought cbr 954 calipers, hopefully get them fitted in the next few weeks and will let you know how i get on
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Re: brake calipers, again
« Reply #1 on: May 26, 2011, 07:40:19 PM »
Have just aquired a zx10 2004 master cylinder. Should arrive tomorrow. Can't wait to get these mods on and see if it works. Hmmm. Maybe need to find a quiet straight road to try it out before I hit the twistys
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Re: brake calipers, again
« Reply #2 on: May 27, 2011, 11:00:39 PM »
Quote from: billyritchie on May 26, 2011, 07:40:19 PM
Have just aquired a cbr1000 05 radial master cylinder. Should arrive tomorrow. Can't wait to get these mods on and see if it works. Hmmm. Maybe need to find a quiet straight road to try it out before I hit the twistys

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Re: brake calipers, again
« Reply #3 on: May 27, 2011, 11:01:34 PM »
Master cylinder has arrived. Gonna fit it tomorrow. Hoping it works well
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Re: brake calipers, again
« Reply #4 on: May 29, 2011, 12:35:47 AM »
Got the fireblade master fitted. Total nightmare to rebleed the brakes. Took me hours today. Gonna Finnish it off tomorrow and go try it out
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Re: brake calipers, again
« Reply #5 on: May 31, 2011, 04:47:21 PM »
Ok. Cbr1000 master doesn't work. Bollox. Too much lever travel. Stops the bike but refitted the original. Must be due to the cylinder volumes. Oh well. Resell on eBay.
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Re: brake calipers, again
« Reply #6 on: June 02, 2011, 11:17:35 AM »
I wouldn't mind upping the brakes without replacing the whole front end.
 
Do you think the SVRacing brackets will work with the 07-onwards Z750, with the USD forks? And how much of the donor bike's brake system do you need to use to do the conversion?
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Re: brake calipers, again
« Reply #7 on: June 02, 2011, 07:42:48 PM »
still waiting on bits to arrive, but im sure the usd forks you have will fit other calipers, measure the mounting holes center to center and check out tech 2 website, you should find them on google, ther guy knows his stuff
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Re: brake calipers, again
« Reply #8 on: June 02, 2011, 07:44:01 PM »
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Re: brake calipers, again
« Reply #9 on: June 13, 2011, 06:42:34 PM »
Ok. The sv brackets dont work. Totally gutted. Could use them as a starting point for a template to get ones made up. Gutted. Time to resell stuff on eBay.
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Re: brake calipers, again
« Reply #10 on: June 15, 2011, 01:56:22 AM »
Bummer -- I was hoping for a positive report.  Maybe do a search on ER-6N (Ninja 650) brake upgrades, since the forks appear to be very similar to the Z750?  Otherwise it's a matter of finding alternate calipers with the same mounting (or making up adapters as you suggested).
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Re: brake calipers, again
« Reply #11 on: June 15, 2011, 04:02:15 AM »
The only bikes I can find with our calipers are the zed and the sv. But the sv gas a smaller disc and a different offset. The caliper mount is 55mm centre to centre. Nothing else uses that I believe. Only option is custom brackets or fork swap
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Re: brake calipers, again
« Reply #12 on: June 17, 2011, 06:43:19 AM »
Funny that you happened to mention that. I wanted to use a different caliper on my M50 and found out I couldn't do that easily because of the 55mm center to center mounting distance. So I ended up just upgrading the brake line to stainless steel and the pads to HH.
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Re: brake calipers, again
« Reply #13 on: June 25, 2011, 01:27:56 AM »
you're far better off just changing to a radial master cyl ( http://www.lemickracing.com/products/details/29/29/brakes/master-cylinders/nissin/nissin-radial-brake-master-cylinder ) with steel braided lines ( http://www.helbrakelines.com/ talk to jim and tell him curtis sent you.) easy peasy and you don't have to mess with different calipers. I have gsxr1k forks, wheel, calipers, rotor, HEL custom lines and the same MC linked there and it's a single finger system.
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Re: brake calipers, again
« Reply #14 on: June 25, 2011, 02:25:53 AM »
I just changed my pads to galpher (SP?) HH pads.  Big difference.  I have not ever really had any complaints about the stock brakes untill recently though.  I run a street/track tire in the front and have always been limited to front lockup or going over the bars.
 
the odd thing is that HH is just a heat/friction rating.  the Tokico pads (stock) that I took off were labeled HH, but the Galphers are much more grippy.  they DO create more heat and have changed the rotors to a darker color.
 
What about changing to a softer metal rotor like a galpher?  Other than the fact that for the costs involved you mite as well change to a 636 front setup alltogether.
 
I have a '00 zx9r master cylinder waiting to be mounted, but i do not know when i will gat around to it.  It could be a long while.  It is labeled at 5/8" DIA so it should be better than stock, but not to grabby like the 19mms would be on  a dual piston caliper setup.  Either way it is meant for a system with 4 pot calipers and should move more than enough fluid.
 
I also plan to change to SS lines, but this will have to wait until I am deeper in my cafe racer/60's GP racer transformation.
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